1 00:00:09,990 --> 00:00:04,870 all right 2 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:13,509 ufo show which i thought was 3 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:19,039 pretty good considering 4 00:00:22,870 --> 00:00:22,160 it was tmz and i know people warned me 5 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:22,880 beforehand 6 00:00:31,109 --> 00:00:26,240 said it's tmz 7 00:00:34,229 --> 00:00:31,119 you know they put out crap 8 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:34,239 but i've seen tmz's 9 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:37,920 past work with interviews from 10 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:40,399 rubio they did some great rubio 11 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:44,000 questions and interviews 12 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:48,399 and um so i was hoping it would be 13 00:00:57,990 --> 00:00:51,520 something like that and i was not 14 00:01:03,590 --> 00:00:58,000 disappointed to tell you the truth 15 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:05,670 fix here hopefully we can get some 16 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:15,109 close that and we are live 17 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:23,670 so people can join if they want 18 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:25,030 and i will go through the show for 19 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:27,040 people who were not able to see it maybe 20 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:28,560 in the uk i'm not sure i know there was 21 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:30,880 a link 22 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:33,200 so i'll put that call in there's a 23 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:40,320 couple of new things for me 24 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:43,759 let's see do we have 25 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:54,550 don't know comments 26 00:02:01,270 --> 00:01:59,749 i liked it somebody got somebody got 27 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:01,280 upset earlier 28 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:04,079 when i uh said it wasn't for us but 29 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:05,920 sorry 30 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:08,239 i just started live streaming godly 31 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:20,470 and somebody said when i said listen 32 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:21,120 it's not 33 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:23,599 for us and this is not for us and it's 34 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:24,480 not i'm sorry 35 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:27,760 ufo twitter we know most of that stuff 36 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:32,239 so i talked to my sister yesterday 37 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:33,599 and actually she was like let me know 38 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:36,959 when it's on and i did but she was out 39 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:38,239 to dinner she's like let me know 40 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:44,550 and i'm going to get her a copy somehow 41 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:45,120 she is 42 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:48,319 not a ufo person 43 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:51,360 and um 44 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:53,440 yeah i mean 60 minutes has their 45 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:54,879 audience 46 00:02:59,509 --> 00:02:58,000 did you guys notice i don't know what 47 00:03:01,350 --> 00:02:59,519 christopher mellon sounded like he just 48 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:01,360 got back from the dentist and he was on 49 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:02,560 novocaine or something 50 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:05,920 it was kind of odd he's usually a little 51 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:07,280 more sharper than that i don't know 52 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:08,319 maybe it was just me 53 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:09,920 it was like he was in a little bit slow 54 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:16,070 but and if anybody did not see it let me 55 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:16,480 know 56 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:17,680 i mean i'll go through it i mean there's 57 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:20,640 a couple of things something 58 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:24,799 so ryan graves i mean he's hinted at 59 00:03:28,149 --> 00:03:26,720 it not being from here before but he was 60 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:28,159 a little he was a little stronger this 61 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:29,440 time saying you know 62 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,599 he's very open to it being from others 63 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:33,519 from some other star system so that was 64 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:35,120 kind of cool 65 00:03:38,869 --> 00:03:36,959 um and you guys i sent out the link too 66 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:38,879 if you want to 67 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:44,000 questions or give your comments 68 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:45,360 yeah 60 minutes definitely had more of 69 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:46,480 an impact i mean look at that look at 70 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:48,480 the coverage we've had 71 00:03:52,949 --> 00:03:50,400 since 60 minutes it's crazy and like 72 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:52,959 juliano marinkovic who who covers all 73 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:54,879 you know archives all the media he can 74 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:56,400 he's it's impossible for them him to 75 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:56,720 keep 76 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:59,280 up early on here there's something i 77 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:00,480 will disagree i will disagree with 78 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:02,560 jeremy on something he goes 79 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:04,640 we don't have technology we don't use 80 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:06,080 you know if we have technology we're 81 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:07,360 going to use it 82 00:04:11,830 --> 00:04:09,920 uh yeah it's worth watching um there's a 83 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:11,840 couple you know for for people like us 84 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,120 you're going to say oh i've seen all 85 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:15,200 this before and the video jeremy showed 86 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:16,560 is the same video he put up 87 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:19,840 earlier so why tmz well 88 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,560 tmz showed an interest tmz funded it tmz 89 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:24,240 interviewed all those people so why not 90 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:25,120 i mean 91 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:26,400 like i said they've done pretty good 92 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:28,639 stuff in the past only here's the only 93 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:30,400 concern i had about the show and it 94 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:32,880 it was annoying so george knapp they 95 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:34,080 asked him you know what are other 96 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:36,639 options besides e.t and he goes 97 00:04:39,749 --> 00:04:38,400 well it could be from here and harvey 98 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:39,759 levin's like what do you mean he goes 99 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:41,440 you know something crypto terrestrial 100 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:42,960 something that you know that lives on 101 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:44,560 this planet and as he started saying 102 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:45,440 that they played that 103 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:48,320 stupid music that makes fun of people 104 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:49,680 when people say something that's a 105 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:52,000 little off and it's like come on tmz but 106 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:52,960 other than that 107 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:54,320 and he did george said something like 108 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:56,479 you know what it resides in this like 109 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:56,880 the 110 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:58,639 psychic realm i don't know his exact 111 00:05:02,790 --> 00:04:59,919 words but 112 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:02,800 other than that yeah they definitely 113 00:05:05,029 --> 00:05:04,080 went other than that it was good but 114 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:05,039 yeah they went they 115 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:08,240 talked about the crash craft possibility 116 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,320 even you know even melon and lou went 117 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:12,080 there they both went there 118 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:16,400 um let's see 119 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,080 i'm just trying to see ahead i took 120 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:20,320 notes and um 121 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:23,680 you know levin says the pentagon has 122 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:26,000 acknowledged that these are ufos and 123 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:27,759 he's talking about 2019 124 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:29,520 but that's not true the pentagon well it 125 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:31,039 kinda is true it depends on how you look 126 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:32,400 at semantics 127 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:35,759 you know if the pentagon said the uap 128 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:37,039 task force has looked at this and 129 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:38,240 they're using it in their 130 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:40,000 i forget the word they use but if 131 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:41,280 they're using it then that's an 132 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:43,440 insinuation that they think it's ufos so 133 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:44,240 that's kind of 134 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:46,000 i would never make a big i i made a big 135 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:48,240 deal about it about that early on but 136 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:50,000 now it's like 137 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:52,560 i can't understand why people say that 138 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:57,350 and then levin asks graves you know why 139 00:06:02,309 --> 00:06:00,240 don't they get closer 140 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:02,319 he asked nap that or corbell he said why 141 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:03,680 don't they get closer to these objects 142 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:04,080 and get 143 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:06,160 a better look and then you know graves 144 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:07,600 has said in the past when they tried to 145 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:08,560 get close 146 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:09,759 these things would move out of the way 147 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:11,600 before they got there 148 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:12,800 and then if they're doing a training 149 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,720 mission they just can't go off and leave 150 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:16,240 the training mission and go chase these 151 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:18,240 so that's another reason but supposedly 152 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,800 like i said jordan coast to coast you 153 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:22,240 know 154 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:25,120 daniel sheen has been shown pictures 155 00:06:30,629 --> 00:06:28,000 taken from an f-18 156 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:30,639 right off the wing of the plane 50 feet 157 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:32,400 which uh lou has talked about so there's 158 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:33,759 a tic tac and there were also 159 00:06:41,909 --> 00:06:37,039 there's also a craft in formation 160 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:43,590 yeah well jeremy jeremy didn't put the 161 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:45,520 moving airplane you know whoever sent 162 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:46,319 him that video 163 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:48,720 i mean that kind of shows these objects 164 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:49,680 and then it shows 165 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:51,280 another plane if that's if that's a 166 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:52,880 plane 167 00:06:57,749 --> 00:06:56,080 um yeah what melon 168 00:07:00,390 --> 00:06:57,759 i have to go back and look exactly what 169 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:00,400 melon said i didn't have specific notes 170 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:03,280 and i yeah i think i think all the 171 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:04,240 people involved 172 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:07,520 think it's a possible threat i mean 173 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:09,280 i have no id we don't know what this is 174 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,720 we don't know what their intentions are 175 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:12,560 i could tell you i could i could look at 176 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:13,919 the craft and i'm only i'm only going to 177 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:16,080 do this like for an hour 178 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:19,360 because i need to actually rest 179 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:21,280 too much transcribing sitting on the 180 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:23,680 couch um 181 00:07:27,749 --> 00:07:25,840 but you look at the craft on the the 182 00:07:28,629 --> 00:07:27,759 west coast and they're they're hovering 183 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:28,639 over a ship 184 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:31,280 over every ship multiple objects 185 00:07:33,589 --> 00:07:32,880 whatever they are and then you have one 186 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:33,599 object 187 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:35,680 they're all the same size so you have 188 00:07:39,189 --> 00:07:37,120 one object over the ship and then all 189 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:39,199 the other ones swarming around 190 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:41,120 so it's like how could you not look at 191 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:43,440 that as a threat i mean you can also say 192 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:45,280 they're trying to show us hey we're here 193 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:47,039 you guys need to reveal us and tell you 194 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:48,879 tell the public but we don't know that 195 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:50,080 they're not they're not coming as far as 196 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:51,440 they know they're not communicating any 197 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:52,000 other way 198 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:54,319 there's no telepathic message or under 199 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:55,919 underneath the craft there's a little 200 00:08:00,070 --> 00:07:58,240 writing say we want you to tell the 201 00:08:01,430 --> 00:08:00,080 world about us so who knows why they're 202 00:08:02,710 --> 00:08:01,440 doing that 203 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:02,720 and then on the east coast when like i 204 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:04,000 said when they try to get close they 205 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:06,479 move out of the way so 206 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:08,479 no way for me to know what their intent 207 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:09,840 is and i don't think 208 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:11,680 i don't think anybody knows their intent 209 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:13,039 even the people who are inside the 210 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:14,639 special access programs let's let's 211 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,599 assume that 212 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:17,759 they had they had contact with some of 213 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:19,199 these craft and maybe the beings let's 214 00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:21,039 just say assume they had contact and the 215 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:21,919 being said 216 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:23,599 we're here for a blah blah blah how do 217 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:24,560 you know they're here for that you're 218 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:26,240 gonna you're gonna believe that i mean 219 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:30,720 you know so i personally have no idea 220 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:31,759 first of all i don't know where they're 221 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:33,680 from even though my favorite theory is 222 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:34,880 crypto terrestrial 223 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,919 um and i don't know what their intention 224 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:39,519 intentions are yeah corbell's footage 225 00:08:42,469 --> 00:08:41,360 has to be taken as a whole it's part of 226 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:42,479 the whole you know 227 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:44,560 obviously we when you hear me saying 228 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:46,480 that daniel sheehan 229 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:48,480 saw a tic tac off the wing of the plane 230 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:50,480 in a photo that photo itself would be 231 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:52,959 better than any video we have i think 232 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:54,880 you know if it's 50 feet off the wing 233 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,480 but we don't have it and 234 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:58,560 if if sheehan saw it that means it's not 235 00:09:01,190 --> 00:08:59,920 classified he's not going to be showing 236 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:01,200 classified information 237 00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:02,560 so that's a picture that's made the 238 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:04,720 rounds why hasn't it been why hasn't it 239 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:06,560 leaked i don't know 240 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:08,959 unlike the alleged triangle coming out 241 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:10,160 of the water i don't think that's made 242 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:11,440 the rounds you know george knapp has 243 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:12,640 said he's asked 244 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:14,800 a lot of people they don't know about it 245 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:15,760 i asked source 246 00:09:19,750 --> 00:09:18,480 a source said nope don't know about it 247 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:19,760 um 248 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:21,360 so let me just see some of your 249 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:22,959 questions and like i said guys you can 250 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:25,600 call in so it's just not me talking 251 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:28,880 but i will talk for an hour um i can't 252 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:30,320 always look at i can't always look at 253 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:30,720 this 254 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:37,430 so nap yeah that brought up materials 255 00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,640 craft and bodies and if you guys saw 256 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,480 i'm sure most of you did ross coldheart 257 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:44,640 who interviewed 258 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:46,640 he interviewed somebody and i have the 259 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:49,600 exact thing right here i'll just read it 260 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:51,200 one of the people that i wrote to he 261 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:52,880 wrote a lot of letters i knew that 262 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:54,240 i knew that last year he told me he 263 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:56,080 wrote letters to people i'm like oh what 264 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:57,920 what a concept writing letters and it 265 00:10:01,430 --> 00:09:58,959 worked 266 00:10:02,710 --> 00:10:01,440 and this one guy nate kobits nat kobits 267 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:02,720 who was the director of science and 268 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:04,160 technology development for the united 269 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:05,600 states navy 270 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:07,200 russ said he's the she was the chief 271 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:09,120 geek of the united states navy for 272 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:11,920 well over 30 years and all of a sudden 273 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,920 he tells ross he goes go ahead ask me 274 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:15,360 the question and the guy was dying of 275 00:10:17,829 --> 00:10:17,279 cancer so this is as close as a deathbed 276 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:17,839 confession 277 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:19,920 as you're going to get and the guy says 278 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:21,920 ask me the question he goes 279 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:23,519 have you ever been read into the ufo 280 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:25,279 retrieval and re-engineering program 281 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:33,430 ross said he almost fell off his chair 282 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:34,959 and he thinks the guy made the decision 283 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:37,120 he said screw it you know he's dying 284 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:38,959 because what are they gonna do to me you 285 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:40,480 know ross what are they gonna do to me 286 00:10:45,829 --> 00:10:42,320 that's a pretty big thing and he said 287 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:45,839 there were multiple we had multiple 288 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:47,360 didn't get to see any of them that was 289 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:48,880 disappointing but then they took him to 290 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:50,560 wright-patterson air force base and he 291 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:52,160 saw a big hunk of metal that was very 292 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:52,880 heavy 293 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:55,360 very light and really strong and he 294 00:10:57,750 --> 00:10:56,640 couldn't figure out how it was made 295 00:10:59,030 --> 00:10:57,760 that's why i think 296 00:11:00,310 --> 00:10:59,040 there's some sort of technique they're 297 00:11:02,069 --> 00:11:00,320 using that's why i mentioned like 298 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:02,079 advanced 3d printing 299 00:11:05,509 --> 00:11:03,680 there's something advanced that they can 300 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:05,519 just create this stuff 301 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:09,040 and he also was told about 302 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:12,160 he was told about bodies so that's not 303 00:11:15,269 --> 00:11:13,519 the first time we've heard bodies we've 304 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:15,279 all heard the rumors about bodies george 305 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:16,800 annapolis mentioned the goodies which 306 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:17,680 are craft 307 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:21,120 and bodies so we need 308 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:22,880 you know and he said he also this guy 309 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,480 put him in contact with other people who 310 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:25,920 were read into the program and other 311 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:27,279 people who were on the proof 312 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:30,480 periphery of that program so that's 313 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:31,360 something for them 314 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:34,480 for the media to follow up and jake you 315 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:34,720 are 316 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:37,200 on live your first one tonight what'd 317 00:11:46,949 --> 00:11:42,800 you think did you get to see it 318 00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:46,959 you there jake there's no jake all right 319 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:48,000 jake if you want to 320 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:53,829 yeah i know i need a thousand 321 00:11:58,629 --> 00:11:56,240 subscribers that's very slow 322 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:58,639 but today when jeremy reed this is the 323 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:00,000 power of somebody who has a lot of 324 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,760 followers jeremy retweeted my stuff and 325 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:03,200 it was like all these followers just 326 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:04,240 coming and coming 327 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:07,430 bam bam bam so that was nice um 328 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:08,800 [Music] 329 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:12,160 so like i said guys feel free otherwise 330 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:15,440 i will cut this short 331 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:17,600 jake i can hear noise but i can't hear 332 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:18,959 you 333 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:26,880 [Music] 334 00:12:30,069 --> 00:12:28,320 and what else let's see there are some 335 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:30,079 other points that were made 336 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:33,279 i just want to get back to the somebody 337 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:34,720 getting mad that i said it was for 338 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:36,880 newbies yeah it's for newbies i'm sorry 339 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:38,399 we've seen all this stuff and there are 340 00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:40,240 people who have never seen any of this 341 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:42,079 stuff and they're on fox it's a network 342 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:43,200 show so 343 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:45,200 most of the world has not seen any of 344 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:47,040 this footage most of the world doesn't 345 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:48,639 know that luis elizondo 346 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:50,880 was threatened you know his reputation 347 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:52,399 most of the world doesn't know a melon 348 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:53,920 is involved with this so 349 00:12:57,670 --> 00:12:55,519 people don't know that ryan graves an 350 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:57,680 f-15 f-18 pilot he's a 351 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:59,519 an engineer you know it's like they 352 00:13:02,629 --> 00:13:00,880 don't know about this stuff i would have 353 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,639 loved to have seen alex dietrich but 354 00:13:06,389 --> 00:13:04,560 either she didn't want to do it maybe 355 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:06,399 because of the tmz 356 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:09,200 name um luke brought up that they 357 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:11,040 destroyed his files and emails and then 358 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:11,920 they gave 359 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:14,160 sarah scholes you know you gotta put a 360 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:15,440 little skeptic in there and they gave 361 00:13:18,829 --> 00:13:17,120 her like 30 seconds so whatever it's not 362 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:18,839 even worth talking about 363 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,800 um corbell said one object i said that 364 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:24,720 uh knapp said one of the objects related 365 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:26,399 to the omaha came right up to the next 366 00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:27,760 ship right up to the ship and followed 367 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:28,160 for an 368 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:31,839 hour i don't think i'd heard that before 369 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:35,040 hear something lou said a senior person 370 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:36,399 in the chain of command told him he 371 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:37,839 needed to come see him and he said this 372 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:38,160 might 373 00:13:41,509 --> 00:13:39,600 affect your security clearance and we've 374 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:41,519 heard stuff like that before 375 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:43,040 and you know basically threatening me 376 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:44,720 he's gonna lose his security clearance 377 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:46,480 and he says they told me mine might 378 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:48,560 matter shut up or will shut you up 379 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,760 i don't know if that was a direct quote 380 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:51,519 but he felt it was it was retaliate 381 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:53,839 retaliation to ruin his reputation 382 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:55,120 he said that's part of the reason why he 383 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:56,639 lives in the middle of nowhere which i 384 00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:57,519 did not know 385 00:14:00,949 --> 00:13:58,720 i thought he just liked living in the 386 00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:00,959 middle of nowhere um 387 00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:03,680 and then graves was was asked why why 388 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:05,279 haven't more pilots spoken out and he 389 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:07,120 said reputation is so important there's 390 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:08,720 really no reward coming forward with 391 00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:09,680 this topic right now 392 00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:11,519 hopefully that'll change with everything 393 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:13,680 that's going on because if it does 394 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:15,440 you want to see more people come out 395 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,120 it's going to happen 396 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:18,880 we need that we more and of course we 397 00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:20,320 need more footage from leakers i'm not 398 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:22,399 sure how much footage jeremy has or what 399 00:14:27,269 --> 00:14:23,680 he has 400 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:27,279 um and then melon you know why did you 401 00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:28,560 do this and i thought that was a really 402 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:30,000 good question he does not need to do 403 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:31,519 this he does not need the money he's a 404 00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:32,240 melon and 405 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:34,399 he said he could afford to take the risk 406 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:35,839 he was honest he goes 407 00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:37,920 making money is great but not nearly as 408 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:38,959 satisfying 409 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:40,639 he feels like he's helping out pilots 410 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:43,040 military in his country which 411 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:45,040 yeah i mean i know i've had issues with 412 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:46,880 him before just minor stuff and i know 413 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:48,720 some people are a little weary but he's 414 00:14:52,870 --> 00:14:51,120 he's the one that went behind the scenes 415 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:52,880 set up all these briefings for lou 416 00:14:56,790 --> 00:14:55,680 so he's a big reason for the why now 417 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:56,800 between him and lou 418 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:59,120 that's the why now uh and corbell 419 00:15:01,990 --> 00:15:00,480 repeated he's encouraged that 420 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:02,000 you know the general disappointment by 421 00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:03,279 the public because now people are 422 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:05,600 unsatisfied and they're gonna want more 423 00:15:09,189 --> 00:15:07,120 it's not a bad thing if enough people 424 00:15:10,389 --> 00:15:09,199 get pissed off which is the problem is 425 00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:10,399 we don't have enough people yet 426 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:13,120 in our passionate group our numbers are 427 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:14,959 growing but it's still not enough 428 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:18,959 um reid said this is the beginning but 429 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,480 it's going to be the ending unless we 430 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,000 follow it up and hopefully they follow 431 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:24,480 it up with a permanent task force 432 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:26,240 you know corbell told us demand ufo 433 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:27,680 transparency from your government and 434 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:28,160 then 435 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:29,680 i might say his name wrong but peter 436 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:33,040 ragone who heads up the ufo pack 437 00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:34,880 i like this he said he's he can they 438 00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:36,959 have software we we can get 10 000 439 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:38,880 emails to our representatives 440 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:40,560 and in the past if you listen to one of 441 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:43,839 all melons old interviews from 2016 442 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:45,920 he kind of downplayed contacting your 443 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:47,199 representative saying yeah when i was 444 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:48,320 working for 445 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:51,839 emails and threw them in the in the can 446 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,399 though so that's not encouraging but 447 00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,160 once they get funding for the ufo pack 448 00:16:00,310 --> 00:15:57,920 that's what they're gonna use it for 449 00:16:01,910 --> 00:16:00,320 and uh corbell said and he said this 450 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,920 before we need something comparable and 451 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:03,360 scale to the scope of the manhattan 452 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:05,040 project i think john 453 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:07,120 john alexander said we need to really 454 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:09,279 fund this in a major robust way it's 455 00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:10,880 going to be you know the way we look at 456 00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:12,240 cancer and try to cure cancer we're 457 00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:14,240 going to need that kind of funding 458 00:16:17,189 --> 00:16:15,759 um and then they got they went i know 459 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:17,199 people were disappointed at the end they 460 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:18,079 said 461 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:19,440 we don't know intent and we're 462 00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,240 vulnerable and they talk about threats 463 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:24,399 and then 11 s graves you know you would 464 00:16:27,269 --> 00:16:25,519 think that somebody would be 465 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:27,279 sounding a lot the alarm on this when it 466 00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:28,800 first started happening grace is like 467 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:30,480 yeah you know at the ever very 468 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:32,079 basic level it's a threat because we 469 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:34,240 might hit them at the very basic 470 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,519 you know never mind their intent 471 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:39,680 and um nap repeated that there are 472 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:41,040 elements in the world of defense that 473 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:41,759 don't want this 474 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:44,560 out and i love what reid said because i 475 00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:45,920 start get you know i watch read 476 00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:47,360 interviews and it's like 477 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:48,880 i go through it i'm like there's a lot 478 00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:51,120 of stuff reed has already said 479 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:54,399 um but he did say some new things he 480 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:55,120 said 481 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:56,880 we need to we need to go at this seven 482 00:17:01,110 --> 00:16:59,360 days a week 12 months a year 483 00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:01,120 always which is a great that's a great 484 00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:03,839 thing for him to say and he's right too 485 00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:05,360 then they asked corbell what he thought 486 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:07,280 you know if he thought these were not 487 00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:09,120 from here and he said personally for him 488 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:11,679 he said it was highly likely 489 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,640 and then melon said if you eliminate 490 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,240 everything else 491 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:18,480 however unlikely that must be the answer 492 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:20,400 so he's kind of telling you it's not 493 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,280 us doesn't mean it's e.t but it's not us 494 00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:25,360 and his opinion 495 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,039 and then levin said you know with their 496 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,440 closing comment if it can go and if we 497 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:31,120 can go in their direction why can't they 498 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:33,520 come in hours 499 00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:35,600 so that was it and if you guys have any 500 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,720 questions and don't want to call 501 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,080 yeah it'd be great if danny can call 502 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:42,559 anybody great if anybody 503 00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:44,320 anybody leaving me hanging here by 504 00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:46,799 myself but i i can talk for an hour i'll 505 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:47,360 do it till 506 00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:50,559 7 pacific you guys are free to ask 507 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,080 questions on the chat since i kind of 508 00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:54,799 went through my notes before 509 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,679 um but i know it may not be a great time 510 00:18:02,310 --> 00:17:59,120 although on the on the 511 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:02,320 east coast people are done eating so i 512 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:04,160 don't know 513 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:07,760 let me just retweet live in 514 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:10,480 and looking forward to tomorrow because 515 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:12,000 tomorrow's gonna be a little more 516 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:13,520 in-depth with 517 00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:19,510 all right how do we call in i'll i'll 518 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:20,240 send the link 519 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:23,280 again let's see so use that 520 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:25,679 in the chat click on that and then i add 521 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:26,640 you 522 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:28,080 i love when george said they might be 523 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,600 from here and live as neighbors that's a 524 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:31,120 pretty amazing concept yeah that's why i 525 00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:32,559 was disappointed to see 526 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:35,919 tmz add that you know that 527 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:39,280 make fun of people music underneath 528 00:18:43,909 --> 00:18:41,760 which was disappointing but you know 529 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:43,919 considering tmz is what tmz is 530 00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:46,480 known for that's that's one minute of 531 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:49,200 the entire show if that so overall 532 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:54,470 and then somebody said we can about the 533 00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:57,280 show later i don't know what that means 534 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,039 dave um yeah the viper team you know 535 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,200 the viper no the uap task force as far 536 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:05,679 as i know no way is the uap task force 537 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,600 um sharing stuff and before the viper 538 00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,600 team whoever was sharing earlier 539 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,679 there was an investigation to try to 540 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:13,600 find out who that was 541 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:16,160 um so i was told that but i don't know i 542 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:17,280 don't know what they found i don't know 543 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:18,480 if they're still looking or if they've 544 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:19,200 given up 545 00:19:22,830 --> 00:19:20,960 the viper team's something different i 546 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:22,840 mean is the viper team going directly to 547 00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:24,160 corbell 548 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:27,679 um i'm frustrated i'm so frustrated 549 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,679 flying pig skin care it's so grainy 550 00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:31,120 filled with a potato complaint 551 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:33,679 i mean i mean i know it's you know it's 552 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:35,280 obviously not what we want 553 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:36,880 and i'm tired of the same videos you 554 00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:38,160 know how many times we're going to hear 555 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,559 the same audio my gosh 556 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:42,000 look at it dude it's like yeah we've 557 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:43,600 heard it forever 558 00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,679 we've been able to debate three videos 559 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:46,960 for three and a half years which is 560 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:48,080 pretty impressive 561 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,679 um so it was nice for jeremy to have 562 00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:51,600 videos and then of course people 563 00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:53,360 you know are taking shots at that but 564 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:55,039 those videos made it into classified 565 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:56,080 briefings so they 566 00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,520 unless they're total idiots oh 567 00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:01,280 james and should we be worried about a 568 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,640 flash flag a false flag alien threat 569 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,480 that's one of my favorite things about 570 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:07,919 the sheehan the sheehan 571 00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:11,280 transcript that i am one eighth of the 572 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,080 way through 573 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:14,400 checking typos and stuff and adding 574 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,760 hyperlinks he says 575 00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:17,200 you know what it just doesn't make any 576 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:18,799 sense if they wanted to you know if they 577 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:19,679 wanted to do a 578 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:22,080 false flag invasion and try to get drum 579 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,679 up military funding 580 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,840 you know take it easy bug have a good 581 00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:26,880 night 582 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:28,559 yeah if they wanted to drum up funding 583 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:29,760 they could just you know they have so 584 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,520 many other avenues besides a 585 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:33,280 fake alien threat they have yet to 586 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:35,120 exhaust with china and russia and 587 00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:36,080 terrorism 588 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:37,520 uh and he says he goes through this 589 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:39,039 whole explanation of why he does not 590 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,480 believe it's valid 591 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,880 but then he bridges he tries to bridge 592 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,360 lou and greer who have gone at it saying 593 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:47,520 but the people like stephen greer 594 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:49,280 they're they're they're getting ahead of 595 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:50,320 the game in case there 596 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:53,120 is a fake fail you know what if there is 597 00:21:43,990 --> 00:20:53,440 a 598 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:44,000 which is not much 599 00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:45,440 you know i think some of these are not 600 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,039 from here or not us 601 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:49,520 and i told her about maybe their i told 602 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,280 her what george knapp said 603 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,280 extraterrestrials people may be able to 604 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,880 handle 605 00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:56,240 but if it's something like a crypto 606 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:59,120 terrestrial and 607 00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:00,960 you know we can't see them but they can 608 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,720 see us while we're taking a shower and 609 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,240 they can pop in whenever they want you 610 00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,919 know she laughed at that but she's like 611 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,039 you know i'm sure 612 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,520 she's like well let me know when it's on 613 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,360 and tonight i told her and she was at 614 00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:13,200 dinner she's like just send me a link if 615 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,799 you can if you can get it to me so she's 616 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:17,039 not somebody who's interested in ufos 617 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,640 and i know a lot of people who have that 618 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,480 happening with friends and family 619 00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,080 i have some friends you know not a lot 620 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,799 of family some family who who were who 621 00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,000 knew of my interest and would 622 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,880 ask me they've had more increased 623 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:30,400 interest but 624 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:33,520 everybody else is still quite quiet and 625 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,320 um 626 00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:37,120 trying to see any other questions i know 627 00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:38,559 it wasn't like i said for us it wasn't 628 00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:48,549 the uap task force has data 629 00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,919 has this data but according to jeremy he 630 00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,840 said that they did not have previous 631 00:23:02,470 --> 00:22:55,360 videos 632 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:05,350 yeah danny sheehan spent a lot of time 633 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,880 on the new paradigm 634 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,760 institute which they have a large 635 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:10,720 facility some 636 00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:13,039 old hotel that was donated it's in 637 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,000 clearly 638 00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,640 clear lake california but it has to be 639 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,679 renovated and 640 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:18,880 sheehan's like i really don't want to 641 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,720 deal with renovations but 642 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,120 i will if i have to and then they have 643 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,200 the observation deck as a virtual a 644 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:27,280 virtual world that they'll use 645 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:28,240 they don't know how much they're going 646 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:29,840 to use between the two of them or how 647 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:31,760 much will be virtual 648 00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:34,320 uss omaha with all evidence is not same 649 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,679 calibers nimitz no 650 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:38,080 it's not it's just it's uh other than 651 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,440 the object going underwater which we 652 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,760 don't even know if it did go underwater 653 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,600 none of this stuff really meets the five 654 00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,440 observables i mean 655 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,919 you know even the gimbal could be you 656 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,760 know 657 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,600 anti-gravity was just staying there and 658 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,039 turning but you know there are people 659 00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:54,480 that don't think that's anything 660 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,600 you know incredible so we still 661 00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:59,520 we want to i want to see the the videos 662 00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:01,200 that bob mcguire talked about where 663 00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:01,679 there 664 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:03,760 they said they were absolutely 665 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,870 yeah that's that's eric davis thinking 666 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,559 have they ever stopped the war he's 667 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,919 totally negative he's like they don't 668 00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:13,760 talk to us there's nothing but bad news 669 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,600 with ufos i don't necessarily 670 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,200 agree but i understand where he's coming 671 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,120 from and paul plus people 672 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,880 in the world of defense see it totally 673 00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,159 different than us so 674 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:23,760 i might not agree with him agree with 675 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,320 him a lot on that stuff he's 676 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,559 you know they they all a lot of them see 677 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,320 it as a way for us to develop more 678 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,400 technology for me i'm like let's 679 00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:34,159 talk about the world but they don't they 680 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:35,840 don't see it like that when they spend 681 00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:36,640 your entire 682 00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:44,870 yeah i mean i wasn't john doe i wasn't 683 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,000 too upset 684 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:48,080 about the way they did it i mean at one 685 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:49,440 point towards the end it was a little 686 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:50,400 hokey but 687 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,000 you know for the everyday person it's 688 00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,919 okay um 689 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,279 whether they announced this episode 690 00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:57,039 yesterday they've announced it like 691 00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,880 within the past week i think but it was 692 00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,799 definitely late and the discovery 693 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:02,320 special tomorrow three hours they 694 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:04,960 promoted for about a week too 695 00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,760 um wilson davis have any of the other 696 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:09,440 individuals mentioned in the memo ever 697 00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,640 been contacted 698 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:12,559 yeah i contacted one and it's in my it's 699 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,000 in my blog i just didn't name 700 00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:16,320 him because after the phone and i'll 701 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,440 tell you how it went 702 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:19,840 i got the phone number from somebody i'm 703 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,640 not really 704 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,320 people said oh you're a journalist but 705 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,320 i'm like i'm not a journalist and i do 706 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,720 not have the guts like a journalist so 707 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,799 but i did it i called him made a call of 708 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,720 a cold call and i don't want to say who 709 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,240 is because i promised 710 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:34,960 so his wife answers and she's like hello 711 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,760 i'm like 712 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:37,760 yeah so and so there she's like who's 713 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:40,080 calling i'm like this is joe murgia i'm 714 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:41,760 calling from las vegas and i want to 715 00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:43,760 talk to him about ufos and he's like 716 00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:46,480 he's like hold on a second she calls his 717 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:48,159 name she's like so-and-so this reporter 718 00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,840 from las vegas wants to talk to you 719 00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:51,679 about ufos i'm like oh this guy's not 720 00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,559 going to come 721 00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:54,159 but he comes and he gets on he's like 722 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:56,080 hello i'm like blah blah blah do you 723 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,279 want to talk about the wilson davis 724 00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:59,200 documents and admiral wilson he's like 725 00:26:01,510 --> 00:26:00,080 no 726 00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,520 i'm like well this is going to end quick 727 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:04,080 and then we started talking ufos and he 728 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:05,360 you know he gave me some interesting 729 00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,520 stuff he told me to watch the movie paul 730 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,840 with the alien and he said i don't think 731 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:11,279 any of this should come out it'll ruin 732 00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,840 religion 733 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:13,279 it'll ruin the world so that was 734 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:15,039 interesting to see that insight very 735 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,320 conservative guy 736 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,640 uh and he gave me details about himself 737 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:20,080 that if i would have used people would 738 00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,520 have been able to figure it out but he 739 00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:23,039 didn't tell me to leave it out i left it 740 00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:24,320 out on my own i'm like 741 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,919 because at the end he's like do not 742 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:27,360 don't use my name if you don't mind you 743 00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:27,679 know 744 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,919 and i and i also said can i call you 745 00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,600 back and talk to you after the new york 746 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,480 times article came 747 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:35,200 out comes out and he's like yes you can 748 00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,720 and i called and he never answered so i 749 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,320 just left them alone 750 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:40,559 did they do x they did x-files music i 751 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:41,360 mean i didn't really 752 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:45,440 i didn't hear that um 753 00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:49,360 so yeah that's unfortunate but overall i 754 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,679 got 755 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:52,000 a serious feel from this that's a good 756 00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:53,039 show you know it's not going to 757 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:54,240 i don't think they change anything like 758 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:56,880 60 minutes would another 60 minutes show 759 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,679 but yeah like i said so the wilson davis 760 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:01,200 i talked to that guy and he played a 761 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,600 role he's in the he's in the document 762 00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:06,080 um i think his boss played a pretty big 763 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,799 role too 764 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,080 but they're not going to talk about it 765 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,480 you know the fact that ross coldhart was 766 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,320 able to get that guy to admit that he 767 00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,760 was read into the program you know it's 768 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,960 a little disappointing 769 00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,880 when he asked him did you see any of the 770 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,159 craft and he said no 771 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,559 but then you know the air force flies 772 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:22,240 them to wright patterson air force base 773 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,799 on their 774 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,679 on our unfair dime and asks them to look 775 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:27,600 at this hunk of metal 776 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:28,880 that's pretty cool and he talked about 777 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:32,159 their underground areas in uh 778 00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,520 in wright patterson and um questions 779 00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,200 about the non-human intelligence may be 780 00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:39,440 addressed through study of 781 00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,399 that's another thing i mean sheehan in 782 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,159 the transcript you'll see he hammers 783 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,080 home that we have to have a diplomatic 784 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,559 team of people practicing ce5 and i'm 785 00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,840 just not sure 786 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,159 i mean i guess if that's the only way to 787 00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:53,600 try to have communication then we'll 788 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,559 have to try it 789 00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,360 you know but i'm weary since we don't 790 00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,520 know who we're dealing with but 791 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,279 it's worth a shot especially we have i i 792 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:03,200 think we need enough people to do some 793 00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,080 sort of 794 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:05,919 whether it's mass meditation you know 795 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:08,960 100 couple hundred million but 796 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:11,360 you know i know mark sims who is part of 797 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,240 the the new 798 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,720 paradigm institute he's being on ce5 too 799 00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,399 and he's has like wacky two-way 800 00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:17,760 walkie-talkie set up where they're 801 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,520 getting communications 802 00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,039 you know it's nothing major right now 803 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,799 it's just they're noticing something on 804 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,240 the walkie-talkie so 805 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,960 no language as far as i know but i 806 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,320 really want to know mark sims if he 807 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,760 thinks all of this is positive because 808 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:31,440 what he told me was all positive but i 809 00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,320 think 810 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:35,200 he may realize that we have somebody i'm 811 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:36,720 going to the caller 812 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,440 carrie what's going on joe how are you 813 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:41,760 i'm good thank you i'm not by myself 814 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:44,320 anymore yeah yeah i'm here with you bro 815 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,279 i'm here with you 816 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,640 how you doing first of all i just want 817 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,840 to say i love what you're doing brother 818 00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:49,360 i love what you're doing thank you 819 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:52,399 fantastic but i appreciate that no 820 00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,600 problem man 821 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,679 so here's what i have to say about this 822 00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:57,279 special right i like the way it was 823 00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,159 paced 824 00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,159 like the way it was put together it's 825 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:01,679 really for the newbies 826 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:05,039 as you said um but here's my problem 827 00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,440 right 828 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:08,480 my problem is corbell 829 00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,159 i like the guy i like what he's doing um 830 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,159 but it's a little shenanigans that he 831 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,600 does for instance you know everybody's 832 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,360 waiting for him to drop this video as he 833 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,640 stated he was going to drop a video 834 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,000 today right 835 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,720 and then he posts a video on instagram 836 00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,559 with a red phone and he's 837 00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,559 i don't know if you saw it and he was 838 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:28,159 like red alert red alert on the phone 839 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:29,120 did you see that video 840 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,960 i did i mean it's him having fun i 841 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,039 actually retweeted it and said 842 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,720 and george nappy said this in the past 843 00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:36,080 and some people aren't gonna like it but 844 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:36,399 i 845 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,520 know so 846 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,960 i understand people aren't gonna there 847 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:42,480 are people that don't like his style 848 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:43,600 there are people that don't like my 849 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:45,039 style i have haters too 850 00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:48,240 so i understand but you know jeremy's 851 00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:49,679 doing amazing work i mean the fact that 852 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:50,559 he's getting 853 00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:55,039 that are linking him information it's 854 00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,240 just he can't even keep up 855 00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,960 keep up with it so there are people that 856 00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,559 every person in this community people 857 00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:02,159 have a problem with and i understand 858 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:03,440 it's just as humans we're going to do 859 00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:03,840 like 860 00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:07,360 we could say jeremy could you change 861 00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:09,039 your style please you know that's who he 862 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,399 is you know 863 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,960 no i i totally understand but here's my 864 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,480 thing it's like 865 00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:17,120 one thing that pisses me off is watching 866 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,159 a news report 867 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,679 like you said they're playing the little 868 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:21,600 uh music 869 00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:24,720 you know behind the reporting 870 00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,240 and i feel as though him 871 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:30,159 acting out like this is kind of it just 872 00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:31,520 it just makes a mockery of the whole 873 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,039 thing i'm very serious about this thing 874 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,440 man i'm trying to bring a lot of people 875 00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,600 um to the you know let everybody know 876 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:38,880 what's going on on my 877 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:42,080 personal social media and you know i was 878 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,600 when he said he was gonna drop this 879 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,200 video i was hyping it up to everybody 880 00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:46,720 else and i have some haters as well 881 00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,159 telling me that it's all you know 882 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,159 foolishness i'm like nah this dude is 883 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,520 about to drop a video 884 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,600 come tuesday you know and i tell him 885 00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,880 where to look for it 886 00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,480 and then he's on there doing this type 887 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:58,559 of stuff i mean again i'm not hating on 888 00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:58,960 him 889 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,080 i appreciate what he's done thus far 890 00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:04,960 but i feel like we need to be super 891 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:05,679 serious 892 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,799 having fun especially with now that he's 893 00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,440 getting all the limelight 894 00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:13,039 you shouldn't be playing around that's 895 00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,919 my opinion did you get to see the 896 00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,760 interview at all or lead to read the 897 00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,519 transcript i did of ross coldheart's 898 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,799 interview with the 899 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,159 guy who was in the crash retrieval 900 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:24,720 program no i didn't see him 901 00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:28,080 so the guy was let's see he was i'll 902 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:29,600 just tell you who he was and i will not 903 00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,559 read the transcript 904 00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:32,799 he was somebody that ross wrote a letter 905 00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,679 to and ross is 906 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:36,080 a former 60 minutes australia or 907 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:37,120 reporter 908 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,320 solid guy i know if you saw his 909 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,320 documentary i did 910 00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:43,440 so he calls this guy up out of the blue 911 00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,799 where he wrote him he wrote him and he 912 00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:46,799 said the guy's name was 913 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,200 nat kobits and he was the director of 914 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,880 science and technology development at 915 00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:53,200 the u.s navy for 30 years so he was the 916 00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:59,190 and he was dying of cancer when ross 917 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480 contacted him 918 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:02,159 and this guy said yeah i was read into 919 00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,760 the i was read into the crash retrieval 920 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,360 and reverse engineering program and i 921 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,440 was told there were multiple craft 922 00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:09,919 i did not actually see one but the us 923 00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,159 air force flew me out at one point to 924 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,000 wright patterson air force base to lake 925 00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,000 to look at a big lump of metal 926 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,320 that was very light and very tough and 927 00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,760 and the guy could not figure out how it 928 00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,600 was manufactured so 929 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,760 this is and this guy put ross in contact 930 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,200 with other people who were read into the 931 00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,960 crash retrieval program 932 00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,559 and then other people who are on the on 933 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:30,000 the periphery of the crash retrieval 934 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,600 program so there's information for other 935 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,120 media to dig into right there because 936 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,039 they have not dug into it 937 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,120 i mean brian bender of politico was like 938 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:38,960 yeah there's really nothing to go on 939 00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,760 here like well 940 00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,600 you can dig like ross did i mean that's 941 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:43,440 amazing investigative reporting work he 942 00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,480 wrote letters to people 943 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,159 who writes letters to people nowadays 944 00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,760 right right right 945 00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:50,080 right i mean that's amazing i did see 946 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:51,200 the um 947 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,640 the headline i just didn't i didn't 948 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:54,399 click on the link i didn't have any time 949 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,200 to read it 950 00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,480 because there's just so much going on 951 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,399 right now these past few days it's like 952 00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:00,080 i can't keep up with it 953 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,600 you know keep up with it and i do it all 954 00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:03,120 the time it's like the problem is i'm 955 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:04,320 trying to do like a blog with a 956 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,279 transcript and this 957 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,679 transcripts take a long time so and 958 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,000 trying to do twitter so it's really hard 959 00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:12,080 um yeah so it's for people who are 960 00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:13,519 working right now i'm not working a lot 961 00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,720 so it's hard for people 962 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:16,559 to stay up and it's really it's not a 963 00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:18,480 bad thing but i've gotten to the point 964 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,679 yeah go ahead i'm sorry you know 965 00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,279 i was just agreeing it's definitely not 966 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:25,679 a bad thing but i'm trying to keep up 967 00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:27,440 with everything man and i have a little 968 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:27,919 group 969 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,840 and we have um lives you know where we 970 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:35,279 get together and chat about all this 971 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,320 stuff so i'm 972 00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,080 it's like i'm doing they had there's 973 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,240 tons of information to give them now 974 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:41,760 you know and i've been trying to catch 975 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,399 them up with the history of everything 976 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,480 and bring them up to speed but you know 977 00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:48,240 i feel like we're in the we're going in 978 00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:49,679 the right direction 979 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:52,399 um and people are beginning to ask 980 00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:54,000 questions i think it's just inevitable 981 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,279 man 982 00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,960 i think it is true i think you know 983 00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,120 people who and by the way 984 00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:01,360 automagically rob you have to unmute 985 00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,159 yourself 986 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:04,159 you know i know people are worried that 987 00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:05,600 we're going to go backwards and we're 988 00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:06,960 going to go back to the same old way it 989 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:08,000 was i don't think that's 990 00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:09,359 i don't think that's possible at this 991 00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,800 point so rob what do you have to say 992 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,839 what you see what you think about the 993 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,800 show 994 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:15,280 oh i really like everything that's going 995 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,480 on right now 996 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,159 it's kind of mind-blowing everything um 997 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,480 i was kind of away from it for a while 998 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:25,040 into it when i was a bit younger i'm 57 999 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:25,760 now 1000 00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:28,879 line and sinker so 1001 00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:32,240 yeah trying to get people up to speed 1002 00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,119 um from where you left off and where 1003 00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,119 you've started up again 1004 00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:39,919 it's a hard pull but you know people are 1005 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,639 where they're at 1006 00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,960 and you just have to respect that yeah i 1007 00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,240 i was the same way i mean 1008 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:47,119 i got into it in the mid 90s and then as 1009 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,240 the years went on 1010 00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:50,720 nothing new was happening so i kind of 1011 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:51,760 let it go 1012 00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,919 and i just you know i definitely stayed 1013 00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,800 yeah good to see you 1014 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,560 i definitely stayed interested in it and 1015 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:58,800 i and i stayed up on any big cases and i 1016 00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,000 looked for any new books that were 1017 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:02,240 interesting to me but then 1018 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,240 around 2017 earlier in that year i heard 1019 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:08,000 about tom delong and i was like oh this 1020 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,440 is interesting i listened to one of his 1021 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,119 interviews on jimmy church and i'm like 1022 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:12,880 he's like i know things that other 1023 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:15,280 people don't know i'm like click 1024 00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,560 click i'm talking about yeah 1025 00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:20,000 but then i heard the wikileaks thing i'm 1026 00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:20,960 like alright let me give it another 1027 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,839 chance and so i 1028 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,520 checked him out and then the press 1029 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,680 conference came in october of 2017. 1030 00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:27,119 george and that went live on coast to 1031 00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:28,640 coast at night and was talking about it 1032 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,040 and 1033 00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:30,560 great you know i shared it on my 1034 00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,079 facebook nobody paid attention 1035 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,079 of course people don't pay attention now 1036 00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:35,760 um but then the new york times article 1037 00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:37,119 came out i'm like i got to get a blog 1038 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,680 and that 1039 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,839 kind of inspired me to where i am now 1040 00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:41,040 which i don't think ever would have 1041 00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:41,599 happened 1042 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:43,119 and i brought this up on twitter today 1043 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,720 and i brought it up other places 1044 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,880 if george knapp doesn't write hunt for 1045 00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,240 the skinwalker 1046 00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:50,960 the dia the d.i.a signed if george knapp 1047 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:53,839 is never born if his parents never met 1048 00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:56,400 he he wrote that book with colin 1049 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,160 kelleher from nids 1050 00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,480 the guy from this the dia the scientist 1051 00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,520 read the book 1052 00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:03,599 said i want to go to skinwalker ranch 1053 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,680 wound up there had an experience 1054 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,200 talked to harry reid and said we need to 1055 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,280 study ufos and paranormal 1056 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:11,280 and that's how everything started so 1057 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:12,320 without that i don't 1058 00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,599 i don't know where we are right now 1059 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:15,839 without that right right 1060 00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:18,160 yeah you know one of the shows that i 1061 00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,440 started watching was 1062 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:22,079 oh it was a filmmaker i can't remember 1063 00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,040 his name 1064 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:25,599 uh it was sky man or something like that 1065 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,560 and they were doing 1066 00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,960 something in australia and there was 1067 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:30,400 like three shows 1068 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:33,680 um phantom writer phantom writer was the 1069 00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:34,079 guy 1070 00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,760 um and i it started pulling me back in 1071 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,359 and then i started looking around and 1072 00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:41,440 i'm like holy [\h__\h] this thing's 1073 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:42,400 exploding 1074 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:46,720 so yeah right 1075 00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,960 and and one of the things i don't know 1076 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:50,000 if i'll ever be able to do this 1077 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:51,280 full-time i would like to 1078 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:52,240 but i don't know if i could do 1079 00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,320 financially but one of the things 1080 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,400 somebody warned me about is they said 1081 00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,760 if you do it full time you're going to 1082 00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,440 feel the pressure to put out content and 1083 00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:01,040 you're going to put out information you 1084 00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,240 you really don't want to put out and 1085 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,960 that is trust me that is not a problem i 1086 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:05,760 cannot 1087 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:07,440 keep up with the content i want to put 1088 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:09,040 on my blog and you know that's why i 1089 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,640 started doing audio on twitter it's just 1090 00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:12,160 easier if i see something 1091 00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,520 there's so much stuff i want to do i 1092 00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,320 mean you know the the story i talk about 1093 00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,320 where the guy one of the remote viewers 1094 00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,560 said i went into a classified area and i 1095 00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:22,000 saw a human being military 1096 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,119 guys working alongside et's i'm like 1097 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,200 what you know it's like i can't should i 1098 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:29,200 put this on my blog and i followed up i 1099 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,760 said 1100 00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,440 the person interviewing did did not 1101 00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:32,960 follow up with questions they moved on 1102 00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,440 i'm like 1103 00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,640 so i wrote him and he's like yeah he 1104 00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,320 goes that's what i saw he goes could 1105 00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:37,680 they have been dummies 1106 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,760 that look like et's or something he's 1107 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,440 like yeah i guess so he goes that's not 1108 00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:42,640 what i thought i go well 1109 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,920 did other guys that you know in the 1110 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,760 military experience a similar thing he's 1111 00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:47,040 like yes 1112 00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,160 so it's like i don't know you know 1113 00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,760 and that's that's not something when i 1114 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,359 meet somebody i talk about 1115 00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:54,880 and i'm only bringing it up here just 1116 00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,960 popped into my head as far as content 1117 00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,640 i've held i have not put that on my blog 1118 00:38:01,430 --> 00:38:00,640 yet i've been really careful about not 1119 00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,440 putting 1120 00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,359 too much speculation on there but i i 1121 00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:05,119 mean i like to speculate and 1122 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,800 last year on my old you my old twitter 1123 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:08,240 account i speculated the heck out of 1124 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:09,280 everything 1125 00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,800 especially when the long was talking 1126 00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,079 because you know a lot of stuff delong 1127 00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,920 talks about i've heard before 1128 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,839 so but it's controversial and a lot of 1129 00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,040 people 1130 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,960 it's not it's it's not right now i don't 1131 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:20,320 think people are prepared to hear it i 1132 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,160 don't even know if it's true or not so 1133 00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:24,160 but he was on today bbc i don't know if 1134 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,359 you saw that 1135 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,440 he's like yeah we the evidence points to 1136 00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:29,200 them not being from another planet you 1137 00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:30,000 know 1138 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,440 and something from another dimension 1139 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:33,040 where they could just pop in and pop out 1140 00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:34,880 and after he left 1141 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,880 the people from bbc were just poking fun 1142 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:38,160 at him which is really annoying i'm like 1143 00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:39,200 if you're going to poke fun at him at 1144 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:40,720 least do it while he's there 1145 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,359 so yeah do you think congressional 1146 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,200 hearings are in our near future like 1147 00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,760 bassett claims 1148 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:50,240 no i don't steve bassett predicted 1149 00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:51,599 congressional hearings like 1150 00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:55,520 by july 4th and then bob mcguire said by 1151 00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,390 yeah yeah right right here i mean 1152 00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:02,079 obviously i want that but yeah yeah i 1153 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:02,960 mean 1154 00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:05,359 i don't see it happening that quickly 1155 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,079 and thank you 1156 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:07,920 scott yeah transcripts are helpful i i 1157 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,560 like to hear that um 1158 00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,240 back somebody said the mobius strip back 1159 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:14,079 to the skinwalker ranch the guy who was 1160 00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:15,280 the daa guy 1161 00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:16,880 saw like this mobius strip it's like 1162 00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:19,359 this tubular moving stuff like an 1163 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,160 infinite over bigelow shoulder and 1164 00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,599 that's what and it was just for you know 1165 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:25,200 nobody else saw it so that was the 1166 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,640 impetus and it makes you wonder 1167 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:28,960 whatever phenomenon is at the ranch 1168 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,640 didn't want to be studied did it show up 1169 00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:32,560 for him he's a mathematician phd 1170 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:33,280 scientist 1171 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,680 i don't think uh 1172 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:39,680 i can't see public hearings that quick 1173 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,960 you guys 1174 00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:43,520 no i probably a year or two maybe two 1175 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:44,480 years 1176 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,680 because the more stuff is going to be 1177 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,520 coming out and 1178 00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:49,119 more senators and congressmen are 1179 00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,480 probably going to jump on the train like 1180 00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,680 all right we definitely need to know 1181 00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,800 what the hell is going on now and 1182 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:54,079 they'll probably get pressure from the 1183 00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:54,720 public 1184 00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,520 you know as more and more people are 1185 00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:58,960 becoming attuned to this stuff 1186 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:01,040 you know and it's just so much 1187 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,560 everywhere it's like i've never seen 1188 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,240 this in my life like it's 1189 00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,160 so many news outlets covering this thing 1190 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,839 it's like it was a dream of mine this is 1191 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,280 like coming true like damn 1192 00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,480 they're actually taking this thing 1193 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,880 serious so maybe two years 1194 00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,640 yeah i was gonna say i think i think 1195 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,400 people need time to get their stuff in 1196 00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,520 order right 1197 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:19,359 because if they're at all connected with 1198 00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:20,800 this in a negative way 1199 00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,760 whatsoever they they need some time to 1200 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:25,599 shore up the books and do whatever they 1201 00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,720 need to do 1202 00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,800 because once this comes out in 1203 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:30,560 congressional hearings 1204 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:33,920 it can get sticky real quick so yeah 1205 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,200 and let's go ahead yeah no i agree i 1206 00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:39,040 agree but you know i have a i have a 1207 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:39,839 question 1208 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,640 have you uh joe have you read dolores 1209 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,800 cannon's books 1210 00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:47,280 i saw dolores cannon speak back when she 1211 00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:48,319 was speaking she's 1212 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,200 passed away now i think but i have not 1213 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,800 the only books i saw from her she's 1214 00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,960 supposedly talking to nostradamus 1215 00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,480 in his current time i don't know if she 1216 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:58,079 did more books so it's kind of for me i 1217 00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,640 was like 1218 00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:00,079 that wasn't something i was interested 1219 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:03,280 in i don't know if she did more books 1220 00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,480 listen to me like you i my my 1221 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,319 thought process was only ufos and the 1222 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:10,160 crap like mirrors the first the thing 1223 00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:11,520 that got me into this thing with bob 1224 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:14,160 lazar's uh when he came out 89 1225 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:17,440 and that was that got me digging right 1226 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:21,520 and then i met this young lady um online 1227 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,680 and we've been communicating quite often 1228 00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:25,280 often and she's a serious lady she's in 1229 00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,319 the music business 1230 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,240 and she's her and i've talked and she 1231 00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,760 went into detail that she used to get 1232 00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,359 abducted right 1233 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,880 and she talked about all this crazy 1234 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,200 stuff i'm like really 1235 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,440 yeah and then she said listen just read 1236 00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:39,920 these books by dolores cannon right 1237 00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:43,280 and the first one i read was 1238 00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,359 um keepers of the universe 1239 00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:50,160 very interesting book and it goes into 1240 00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:51,680 everything that's happening now she 1241 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,040 wrote it back in 80 i think 87 1242 00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,280 and the thing that really got me with 1243 00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,200 her book is because i'm i'm in with 1244 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,880 bob lazar i believe him 100. right 1245 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,200 and there's things that she described in 1246 00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,960 that book 1247 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,960 um first let me just cut back a little 1248 00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,480 bit the way the book is structured 1249 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,880 is that she does regressive therapy and 1250 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:14,720 she's regressing people to past lives 1251 00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:15,359 and then there's 1252 00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:18,480 one guy who came into our office that 1253 00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,200 she worked with 1254 00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,880 and for the first time she regressed 1255 00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:23,599 somebody to another 1256 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,480 galaxy which freaked her out and then 1257 00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:27,680 since then well 1258 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:30,319 if that book was mainly uh just focusing 1259 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:31,359 on him 1260 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:35,359 but um when she regresses him he's 1261 00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,400 an entity from different star systems 1262 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,079 and he's describing what the craft look 1263 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:42,160 like he's describing in the detail 1264 00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:45,839 how the crafts work he's describing um 1265 00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:49,040 the propulsion system what powers it and 1266 00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:52,000 everything lines up with what bob lazar 1267 00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:53,680 spoke about 1268 00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,960 and a lot of these crafts that we're 1269 00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:57,119 seeing today they're all being spoken 1270 00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:57,680 about 1271 00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,720 in her book from 1980 something so i i 1272 00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:02,400 suggest you actually try and check it 1273 00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,960 out 1274 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:05,040 it's a i didn't actually read it because 1275 00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,240 who reads these days 1276 00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:08,800 not me i listen to the audio world right 1277 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,359 but it's 1278 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,599 fascinating and i think it answers a lot 1279 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,520 of questions and the different 1280 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,760 type of entities that they have out 1281 00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,599 there you know the things that 1282 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,599 that's happening on skin walk ranch all 1283 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:21,599 that stuff it's covered in the book 1284 00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,240 which 1285 00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:24,720 you can check it out man anybody else 1286 00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,680 should check it out 1287 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,200 somebody brought up skinwalker ranch and 1288 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,640 they said how do you feel about the idea 1289 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,640 that skinwalker ranch was used for 1290 00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,200 psychotronic testing and 1291 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,359 you know i don't think i mean maybe 1292 00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,800 maybe some of that went on maybe they 1293 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,560 tried to you know piggyback alongside 1294 00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:40,000 with the real phenomena but that stuff's 1295 00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:41,280 been going on 1296 00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,119 i wouldn't rule it out as part of what's 1297 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,640 going on but i think the majority of 1298 00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:46,480 stuff has been going on for a long time 1299 00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,079 maybe a hundred years 1300 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,680 so i don't think it's psychotronic 1301 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:51,760 testing um 1302 00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,880 what it is i don't know but for me 1303 00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,640 most of it does not seem good it's like 1304 00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:58,400 neutral or or negative 1305 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:01,280 um but as far as me not me being nuts 1306 00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:02,560 and bolts carrie i 1307 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,960 when i first got into us into this it 1308 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:06,240 was through communion and whitley 1309 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:07,760 strieber and then it turned into total 1310 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:09,920 metaphysics so i'm not against that it's 1311 00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:10,480 just 1312 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,920 she was even further along than i was so 1313 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,599 you know i always keep an open mind some 1314 00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:17,680 of the stuff i talk about is out there 1315 00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,839 you know even some of the remote viewing 1316 00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,599 with farsight institute some of what 1317 00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:23,200 they talk about is a galactic type of 1318 00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,720 federation it's like 1319 00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,720 you know and i really i look at it and 1320 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,400 i'm like that's really interesting that 1321 00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:29,760 makes sense but there's no 1322 00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,800 feedback i can't prove any of it um 1323 00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:34,160 i had somebody tell me that there are 1324 00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:35,920 people involved in this whole effort 1325 00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:36,560 that 1326 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,640 farsight institute so 1327 00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,800 yeah carrie said who's they asked you 1328 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:44,880 who's the author dolores cannon 1329 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,280 is the author what was the book again uh 1330 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:49,359 keepers of the universe she has a series 1331 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:51,040 but that's the one that you have to read 1332 00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:52,400 it in succession but that's the first 1333 00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,440 one you should start with 1334 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,760 amazing book and i do need to read artie 1335 00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,880 clark you know 1336 00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,720 several people told me this person says 1337 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,480 lots of cases no hypnosis so i 1338 00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:02,000 definitely need to check that out that's 1339 00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,599 that was the thing that annoyed me when 1340 00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,359 unidentified did 1341 00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:07,520 um they did a segment on abductions and 1342 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,480 it was kind of like 1343 00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:11,040 pointing towards sleep paralysis and 1344 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,319 they were there were there were people 1345 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:14,240 in the military who had seen beings and 1346 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,880 they weren't 1347 00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,240 it wasn't under hypnosis they had 1348 00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,079 regular memories but it wasn't it wasn't 1349 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,560 put in the show 1350 00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,960 so and then another thing that uh bob 1351 00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,800 mcguire said if lou ever become 1352 00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,480 became a congressman it was on the floor 1353 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:27,839 of congress he would be able to say 1354 00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,160 whatever he wants 1355 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,480 classified or not and they couldn't do 1356 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,920 anything to them so i looked it up and i 1357 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:35,520 think he's right 1358 00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,960 so that's i think what he's using to 1359 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,480 hold over their head you're going to 1360 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:39,200 keep doing this 1361 00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,800 i'm going to run for congress and he 1362 00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:42,560 goes this i'm not and i know a lot of 1363 00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:43,839 stuff that went on there it's not just 1364 00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:44,800 about ufos 1365 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:47,440 that they don't want coming out so wow 1366 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:48,720 yeah definitely 1367 00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:51,280 but did you see how how how loose demina 1368 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:52,640 was he just seemed like 1369 00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:56,079 really i don't know he was really pumped 1370 00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,280 up in an irate 1371 00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,440 a little irate about the situation was 1372 00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:01,040 going on stressed out 1373 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:03,440 i like it upset low i do like an upset 1374 00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,400 lou 1375 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:06,000 but he's frustrated like he said he 1376 00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:07,200 doesn't really want to do this but i 1377 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,800 guess he's gonna have to and 1378 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,240 he's talking about he's talking about 1379 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,480 going into fourth gear now which 1380 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,000 i don't know what that means because as 1381 00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:16,240 time has gone gone on he shared more and 1382 00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,680 more details which i love 1383 00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,680 you know yeah the one detail i did not 1384 00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,599 expect him to talk about was the uh 1385 00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:23,280 the mussolini files where they talk 1386 00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,800 about a craft that they had 1387 00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,800 and he said those are he said those are 1388 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,240 legitimate documents 1389 00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,240 where they appear legitimate and in that 1390 00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,839 document it says the craft was brought 1391 00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:33,920 over to the united states so 1392 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,119 yeah yeah yeah yeah 1393 00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,200 there's a book called a secret space 1394 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,880 program something or the other 1395 00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,200 i was reading as well and they speak 1396 00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,359 about that that muslin craft and 1397 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,960 antarctica i'm just starting to do more 1398 00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,960 research and antarctica before people 1399 00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,800 tell me all this crazy stuff about 1400 00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,400 antarctica and i'd be like shut the [\h__\h] 1401 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:54,839 up that dumb [\h__\h] but it's 1402 00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:57,920 china yeah i will just tell you one 1403 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,400 a little one ant in antarctica anecdote 1404 00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,640 with somebody connected to ttsa told me 1405 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,920 that tom delong started 1406 00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,760 talking about antarctica and nazis 1407 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,280 during a board meeting and 1408 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,599 they were very unhappy they were really 1409 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:11,200 unhappy that he was talking about that 1410 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,240 they're like 1411 00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:13,920 this is not what we need we need to 1412 00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:16,480 stick to data so 1413 00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:19,359 anyway that's what he said back to the 1414 00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:20,240 loo thing i 1415 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:22,880 i had heard through a couple of tweets 1416 00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,520 so third hand fourth hand information 1417 00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,000 that lou was told to comment or they're 1418 00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:29,839 gonna pull a security click 1419 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,559 yeah we talked about that tonight guy 1420 00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:34,000 earns a living 1421 00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,960 through his training you know right 1422 00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,079 clearances 1423 00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:40,480 so that may have forced him to back off 1424 00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,520 just a little bit 1425 00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,520 and take a different pro not that he's 1426 00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,599 going to back off but at least take it 1427 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,920 approach and the whole the whole 1428 00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,920 inspector general thing that's going on 1429 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,680 that him and sheehan went to washington 1430 00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,359 they said it really went well 1431 00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,160 you know for some reason like i said on 1432 00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,760 coast to coast they brought in 1433 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,280 for some reason the inspector general 1434 00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:00,880 side they brought in a colonel from the 1435 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:03,440 air force which is to me really odd 1436 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,480 i don't know what that has to do with 1437 00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,640 the inspector general investigation but 1438 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,000 and that thing's going to take a while 1439 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,480 though lou said you know maybe 18 months 1440 00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:12,160 i mean it takes they take a long time to 1441 00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,800 do their 1442 00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,880 evaluation it's not an investigation 1443 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,559 they're not looking for wrongdoing 1444 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:18,160 just trying to make things better in the 1445 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,800 process so you know anybody hoping that 1446 00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:23,040 susan goff is going to be reprimanded i 1447 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:24,000 think they need to lower their 1448 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,829 just trying to see somebody said i 1449 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,520 believe that you went to basin for sure 1450 00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,119 has something going on with it but i'm 1451 00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,720 talking about specifically guys like 1452 00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,760 chris marx and us 1453 00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,000 yeah i know chris marx thinks that they 1454 00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,480 the government tested stuff on him and 1455 00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:42,960 i don't think so you know but you know 1456 00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,079 chris bartel who was there too 1457 00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,400 he had some sinus infection that that 1458 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,680 should have been pointed out when he had 1459 00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,839 him mri done so i'm with him on that for 1460 00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,040 some reason they didn't tell him 1461 00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,040 when he first had it done but he doesn't 1462 00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,359 go down the the military testing 1463 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,520 angle but something was there and they 1464 00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:01,040 kind of were guinea pigs but 1465 00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,400 i'm pretty sure they were told before 1466 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:04,400 they went to the ranch this place is 1467 00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,280 known 1468 00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,160 for parallel paranormal activity they 1469 00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:09,839 were given access to the 1470 00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,520 bigelow library which i would love to 1471 00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,280 see that library i mean 1472 00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:15,359 i must have a ton of stuff yeah i think 1473 00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:17,200 one out on the fringe i was talking 1474 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,000 about 1475 00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,760 earlier the name was chad kelly 1476 00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:24,000 i don't know that yeah he's a he's a 1477 00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,040 documentarist 1478 00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:27,839 so yeah filmmaker and he did a couple 1479 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,400 things 1480 00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:30,480 over at that place and i was thinking 1481 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:32,559 psyop same kind of thing 1482 00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:34,720 got set up with this phantom rider 1483 00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,079 series that he did 1484 00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:38,640 that took took everything down a strange 1485 00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:39,280 path 1486 00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:41,599 that's kind of how i stepped back into 1487 00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,559 everything 1488 00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:44,880 so it was it was interesting they had 1489 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,559 this 1490 00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:48,240 it was kind of a ghost hunger kind of 1491 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:49,920 thing but 1492 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,400 the the being whatever it was kind of 1493 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,160 popped out of the doorway and then 1494 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:55,599 popped back in 1495 00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:59,040 oh yeah i saw that yeah you got to see 1496 00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,640 it a couple what's the guy's name 1497 00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:03,520 what the heck is chad kalec yeah this 1498 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:04,880 show is called 1499 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,920 um the two 1500 00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:10,079 the grey mr gray two face or something 1501 00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,960 like that 1502 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:13,920 no face yeah no face yeah mr gray no 1503 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:15,040 face it's actually pretty good 1504 00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,160 documentary 1505 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,440 yeah he's a decent filmmaker and it's 1506 00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,760 it was it was a worthwhile but it yanked 1507 00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,520 me right back into this whole thing 1508 00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,760 yeah i watched the follow-up i don't 1509 00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,000 think i saw the first one 1510 00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:29,760 yeah i know what you're talking about i 1511 00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:31,520 know who i know the filmmaker australian 1512 00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:32,559 or he was 1513 00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:35,359 is he australian when it happened yeah 1514 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:36,079 yeah 1515 00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:43,200 vincent if you want to talk you have to 1516 00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,559 unmute yourself yeah 1517 00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:46,480 i definitely did see the second one but 1518 00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,760 i'll have to check somebody else 1519 00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:49,280 recommended that to me too and and i 1520 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,240 watched it i'm like and they're like 1521 00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,079 nope you watched the wrong one 1522 00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,960 i showed friends and they got entirely 1523 00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:56,880 irritated with me because i was making 1524 00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:57,200 them 1525 00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,319 fit through all three episodes 1526 00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,400 sir no face and whatever the other one 1527 00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:04,800 was i can't remember at the time but 1528 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:08,240 yeah vincent if you're there 1529 00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,160 unmute yourself otherwise guys i'm gonna 1530 00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,640 call it a night and ungodly moose i i 1531 00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:16,800 know erica luke's has that angle that 1532 00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:17,119 it's 1533 00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:20,240 military and i disagree vehemently with 1534 00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:20,559 her 1535 00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,319 on that so um and i know chris marks is 1536 00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:26,319 her husband so 1537 00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:29,359 i don't know you know hi hi julie 1538 00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:31,200 we're about to end it unless you want to 1539 00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:33,040 call in and vincent you're unmuted if 1540 00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:33,520 you want to 1541 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,640 about the show no i suppose i'm 40 min 1542 00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,480 three minutes late so i'll just catch 1543 00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:39,839 the next one go ahead say something 1544 00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:40,720 quick 1545 00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:42,960 uh i'm all right thank you all right 1546 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:44,559 take it easy 1547 00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,160 all right guys i'm gonna take a break 1548 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,000 and i'm gonna call us a night thank you 1549 00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,000 for all right where are you located 1550 00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:54,720 i'm in las vegas uh henderson okay so 1551 00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:55,359 i'm on 1552 00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:58,720 right so 1553 00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,599 you are the seventh island i'm in hawaii 1554 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:03,040 you're in hawaii oh nice 1555 00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,720 i have not been and carrie where are you 1556 00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:06,480 located i'm in new york 1557 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:09,520 new york where in new york queens queens 1558 00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:09,760 i 1559 00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:17,359 actually really yeah 1560 00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:19,119 from long island florida and back to 1561 00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:25,190 cool well i'll catch you again on 1562 00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:26,640 another one of these man i like yeah 1563 00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,200 definitely 1564 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:29,599 thank you for doing this no doubt man 1565 00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:30,720 keep doing what you're doing 1566 00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:37,589 and yeah queens never thought i'd live 1567 00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:39,839 in queens but i met my second wife there 1568 00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:43,119 and uh thanks scott and julie 1569 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,359 thanks for coming on here and norman 1570 00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,720 i definitely need to take a break but 1571 00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:50,880 i'm not as tired as i was earlier 1572 00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:52,720 i need to get out and get some exercise 1573 00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:54,720 transcribing on the couch all day is not 1574 00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,280 good 1575 00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:57,520 astoria in the house funny story real 1576 00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:59,119 quick 1577 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,400 my second ex-wife was is from estonia so 1578 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,760 when we lived in new york people would 1579 00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,040 say where are you from should you say 1580 00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,000 mastonia like oh astoria queens great 1581 00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:09,920 like no not queen's astoria 1582 00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,359 anyway all right guys dave 1583 00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,200 i will hit you up and find out what that 1584 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,119 was everybody have a good night 1585 00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:18,880 until the next time maybe tomorrow after